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by mrSmith on October 4, 2007
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Had anyone have or at least tried these shoes? I'm intrigued by the concept, but the price seems outrageuos. They did however,tell me that USAT get a $20 discount. I'm tryng to find some feedback online but there isn't much out there other than the company's statements.
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by mikef on October 4, 2007
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don't waste your money. Running form is intuitive and attempts to change the vast, vast majority of time lead to injury.
There have been a number of methods (Pose running)and various products from shoe inserts to the shoes themselves that put your foot and stride in what they claim is an optimal position.
you run on your forefoot when barefoot because it would be too friggen painful to land on your heels. No science involved here.....
The boston marathon is one of a few road races that is televised. Watch the lead pack run. you'll see a bunch of different affects... heel strikers, forefoot strikers, long striders, short/choppy strides, shufflers (al la moses tunui).
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they are all running 5 minute miles.
so, there is no "optimal" form and anyone attempting to claim there is is simply wrong.
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by mikef on October 4, 2007
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and the PS to this is: if you do choose to buy these shoes and "change your form" better hope they market these shoes for as long as you want to run. what happens if they stop making the shoe?
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by mrSmith on October 4, 2007
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That was one question that has come to me, what if they stop making them. Well, here's my problem, to anyone who can help me out:
I've always seemed to be ok with neutral shoes. I've done the wet foot on paper test, check myself out in a mirror while bending my knees to check foot and ankle rolling and all comes to the consclusion that I don't seem to have stability issues. I'm about 6'1" and 165 lbs. I have calluses on both feet on the outside of my heel, and evenly on the balls of both feet, inside and outside. I've always assumed this meant my foot was landing straight when I ran. But, last year I started having achilles problems, and I thought maybe they were rolling in for some reason,but I thought maybe I bought the wrong shoes. I tried a motion control show for a while, but it always seemed like I had too difficult of a time running in them and I would fatigue easily while wearing them, but I also had no achilles pain. Upon a suggestion from a friend, I put a lift in the heel of a neutral shoe and no problems. But, that tends to give me occasional pain on the inside of my knee. But, if I take the heel lift out, even for one run, I have pain in my achilles.. I do have a pair of Addidas Supernove Competition which have a very small motion control t them, and I've never had problems running with them as far as my achilles. This year, I ran alot of duathlons in a pair od Addidas Adizero's which were totally neutral and flat, felt great while runningin them but a few times was left with some achilles pain and sore ankles.The only time I can notice any anlke or foot roll is sometimes at the very end of the foot strike-off. Any suggestions?
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by tlhorn on October 4, 2007
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Mr. Smith- here is an initial review of the Newton's from someone in my triathlon club:
Hey guys as promised, I am going to give you guys the run down of my experience with the Newton Running shoes. First off, I got the Newton Gravity shoes and used Tom's discount. (Thanks Tom!) Even with the discount though, they still came out to $161 and change.
I know that sounds hard to choke down and that's probably because it is. When they arrived, the box contained the shoes (Already laced), an extra pair of laces, running socks, and a shoe bag. All of that almost makes you feel like the cost is justified....almost. My first impression was how light they are compared to my trainers. They are very bretheable due to the completely see through mesh that covers the toe box and sid walls of the shoes. I'm sure that it would help keep odors under wrap for those people who run barefoot, but since I don't, the weight reduction seemed to be the only benefit.
So I tossed the puppies on for my first 3 mile run (That's all the company suggests you do on the first run). I found that at first the feeling was a little "different". Almost feels like you have a bar under your forefoot, but the awkwardness goes away pretty quickly. I did notice a drop in heel striking, but as a mid foot runner, I don't get much of that anyway. It did have a nice roll on the forefoot which I noticed seemed to straighten my posture, but give me the sensation of running on a slight downhill. It may have been a placebo, but it also felt as though I was increasing my foot speed and the legs weren't "dragging" as much. That being said, I out paced my running partner and felt very good at the end of the run even though the company said you may start to feel tight calves due to an increase of calf use. (I didn't experience this)
Last night was the second time I broke them out and I did a track workout with them. I did Yasso 800's (10X800's in the time you want to finish your marathon. For me it was 3:40.) After 4 miles, we decided to merge the last 2 800's into a fast paced mile run. Again, it may not have been the shoes, but we subbed each of the 400's in the mile and finished in 6:14. WELL below the time I was thinking I could run. The shoes felt great, and I did feel a little bit of calf tightness, but obviously not enough to hold me back. I was able to out run the last mile against my much faster and better conditioned training partner even if it was my kick at the end that finished him off. Was it the shoes? I would attribute a little to them because they helped me maintain my position even when tired as well as keep me on my forefoot to help me stay in my natural sprinter form.
Are they worth the money? The jury is still out on that one. Let me get another couple of runs in with them (including a longer run) and I will respond back to this. As for now, I'd say if you have the expendable income go for it. So far I am happy with them. If not, keep reading the reviews to see if they are worth it and if they hold up to the mileage. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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by mikef on October 4, 2007
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mr smith I believe you need orthotics. custom molded rigid, not the store bought.
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by pgroves on October 8, 2007
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i bought a pair hoping to get some speed. that part worked great but i developed some achilles/lower leg issues after 75 miles of use that my doctor thinks is a result of trying to become a forefoot runner too quickly.
i would suggest easing into them over a few month period.
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by invictus on October 26, 2007
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MrSmith:
I'm 5'11", 150lbs and have had moderate knee and plantar fasciitis issues over the years. My solution, which I recommend to anyone with similar issues, is a visit to an experienced sports podiatrist with experience treating runners. Even then, it may take more than one try: my first podiatrist in California proscribed rigid orthotics - they were a total failure as I could not adjust to them. I found an older distance runner/podiatrist in DC who gave me a thorough exam and discussed my issues, finally proscribing leather orthotics. Now I have three pair and dedicate one each for running, trail running, and my work shoes. I can't enough good about them.
Good luck.
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by menchilin on December 5, 2007
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Hi
i have been using this shoes since May 07. Initially they felt great, they felt light and it seemed to me i was running with a faster pace though i was never able to prove it in races. within a couple of month, i started to experience worsning calf pain that persisted for a long period of time. The other problem i faced was that, the forefoot bars they have in the shoes; they wear off pretty fast, within 2 month i was able to tell a significant wear off,i lgg an average of 20-25 miles per week. so this is a total of 200miles at most. i am not even sure if the calf pain is related to that, as it really felt uncomfortable. i don't think i would buy another one next year especially with their high price.
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by Mitchel88 on April 27, 2009
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To all,
I personally do not wear Newton’s as of yet but I have read there theory as well as Mike's. The theory behind Newton is to align your body so it runs properly. Like Mike stated, there are plenty of fast runners with different strides. Does that mean that it's ok? Nope! You can train your body to run fast in an inefficient manner. This is called having a muscular imbalance. Muscular imbalances are caused by doing a repeated movement such as running in an improper manner. What Newton shoes do is correct the imbalance (for the most part) so you can run more efficiently. This will allow you to get from point A to point B in your stride much faster. This will make the difference in a 5min mile and a 4:58mi. The suggested orthotics will do the same as Newton’s but they will wear out faster. Orthotic are not always needed due to the fact that most orthotic cannot hold up during running as they are made for walking. What I am stating is that Newton shoes are very good if they do what they propose (again, I do not use them due to a sponsorship from brooks). However, suggesting that it is a fact that stride pattern is instinctive and that is how it should be and you shouldn’t change it is completely wrong. I have studies physiology for many years and that theory has been disproven many times. Any irregular foot placement should be fixed. Weather it be threw a shoe or a coach.
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